Schneiderman: There’s Room For Compromise On Guns

This guy is a snake in the grass! Do not trust at all!

as long as cooperation doesn’t mean caving and unreasonable compromise.

We’ve “compromised” way too many times over the years –and what do we end up with ? Liberals demanding MORE Compromises, MORE restrictions. MORE Anti Gun Laws. They’ve taken Trust & Honesty off the Table and replaced it with Late Night Legislation and Lies –we should listen to them now ? …nice try

These are nothing but token offerings and ‘spin’ in response to the realization that there are a LOT of people Totally ticked off at how this legislation was contrived and coerced and that the issue is Not going to go away. Now they want to do ‘damage control’ to salvage their political butts. There is no room even for discussion, much less “compromise.” This action has obliterated what little trust by the people might have been left for government. With all the financial problems in new York state why would you want to reek such havoc on what remnants of business we have left?

This was a HUGE miscalculation. The only upside to it is that Cuomo has rendered himself unelectable in 2016. By the time the full fruit of this tyranny unfolds even the Democrats won’t want him running. Anybody that capable of such a gross miscalculation clearly does not have the wherewithal to even think of running the country. go back and read the Constitution, governor! This whole bill needs to go all the way the United States Supreme Court and be answered once and for all!

It’s always the the gun owners who have given in to compromise…How about introducing an open carry law in NY…Concealed carry reciprocity with other states…Go on the offensive…

Lets identify who exactly is responsible for the majority of that violence first.

The government acknowledges in USDOJ National Gang Threat Assessment 2011, see pg 14, chart #8 for that massive number of violent crimes committed in the US each year committed by gang members.

For several decades, studies have been conducted on crime and causalities by various bodies including major universities, criminologists and even the U.S. Department of Justice. These studies have found that approximately 80% of all crime is committed by 20% of all criminals. Some of the studies have provided slightly different numbers but all of them have found
that a small group of criminals commit a vastly disproportionate number of crimes than their peers.(Wolfgang et al ., 1972; Petersilia et al ., 1978; Williams, 1979; Chaiken and Chaiken,
1982; Greenwood with Abrahamse, 1982, and Martin and Sherman,1986).

2.7 mil prisoners

1.4 mil active gang members

2.5-3.5 mil active criminals

1 mil plus open felony warrants

Hence add in the career criminals.

CDC -Suicidal people speak for them-selves as suicide is a felony.

Shall we review police firearm discharge reports in Chicago and NYC where between 76-80% of those involved in shootings, both shooter and injured were both involved in criminal activity at the time of the incident.

Yeah, review of all the govt. data above shows over 92% of all killings by illegal use of a firearm are committed by career criminals, gang members, and suiciders. A sane person would normally address the largest problem first don’t you agree?

Lets continue this review by acknowledging how many of the existing gun control laws actually apply to the bad guys.

Haynes vs. U.S. 390 U.S. 85 1968 where the US Supreme Court ruled 8-1 in favor of Haynes that any law requiring a felon to self incriminate themselves and violate their 5th amendment rights was not enforceable as a charge for prosecution.

Hence criminals don’t have to follow 85% of the existing 22,417 gun control laws that do so, e.g. your stolen weapons, registrations, etc….

Would you care to suggest that the 5th amendment be repealed, no, don’t think you would!

Then we should review how well those laws are enforced anyway.

Like the BATF for refusing to prosecute more than 1% of the 1.83 mil felons, others, and crazies rejected by the background check since 1994.

USDOJ Background Check & Firearm Transfer
report 2008

Like the BATF for refusing to catch ANY of those lying on their 4473 forms (Cho, Loughner & Holmes were crazy, they lied) or using fake identifications.

cbsnews 3/21/2001General Accounting Office study

Like the BATF for refusing to do anything about the 95% of felons who don’t even attempt to buy from a licensed source to begin with.

DOJ Firearms use by Offenders Nov 2001

Like the BATF for refusing to allow civilians access to use the NICS background check for private sales as only licensed dealers are allowed.

Lets not forget that our politicians play a significant role in enabling the crazies to go free. As a result of VA Tech, Pub. L.
110-180 NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007 was enacted.

The real question and failure, is what have the states actually funded or resourced for this mental health reporting to the NICS?

Going to the actual NICS website, we see as of Dec 2012, there are only 1.83 mil records of people who by due process have lost their 2A rights for being severely mentally ill. Yet mental health experts agree that on avg. over 23.15 mil US adults (50% of current 2.7 mil prisoners) are severely mentally ill.

Don’t forget the NCIC FBI database showing over 1 mil open felony warrants in the US today. Uh where’s your data showing that 50% of these 1 mil people wanted aren’t severely mentally ill eh?

So is that the 80 mil law abiding gun owners fault, BATF fault or the politicians fault, sucker question I know!

No, this AG is just spewing BS and lies out of his rectal orifice he calls a mouth as all good communist drones do!

I think I may have forgotten to mention mandatory waiting periods, limits on the number of guns purchased to go along with the background checks. Of course no background checks will work if people use ‘straw buyers’. If found these buyers should be prosecuted. We need more regulation to keep the guns away form the bad actors. Your list of studies and numbers is impressive. As I am at work I don’t have time to put up a list of studies I would use to support my case. Perhaps we should both remember the quote about ‘Lies, damn lies and statistics”. Too many guns, not enough rules.

That’s quite a pile of gibberish that you’ve written, jarhead. Citing in half-assed fashion a bunch of (unconnected) studies which you haven’t read closely enough to comprehend and which use data that you’ve made no effort to understand DOESN’T constitute an argument.

Stop copying bullsh*t from some website and THINK for yourself. Pick just one study, read it thoroughly, think about the data used (and any shortcomings that it has) and then enlighten us with a crystal clear point that you think can be drawn from the study.

Then I’ll tell you if your analysis makes any sense.

Agreement and compromise: that must be why hundreds of Busses from across the State are coming to Albany Feb. 28th to protest the passage of the un-SAFE Act. To the RINO’s that voted for the act: Making a deal with the Devil may get you what you want now, but in the end you still go to hell. We WILL primary you out and if that fails, we WILL vote for someone else….think we’re angry? you haven’t seen anything yet.