Court Denies SAFE Act Injunction

Keep electing these liberal law makers and we won’t have any freedom left!

If you’re going to push this Constitutionally unlawful piece of legislation, where’s the active duty and retired military exception, like law enforcement. They also are required to carry high capacity magazines when on active duty and have just as much weapons training (I’m being
polite”) or more than the average law enforcement officer. SWAT related training is more consistent with military weapons training…. How did that get overlooked in the initial law and projected amendments? Failure to do so opens them to felony weapons charges just for carrying empty high capacity magazines, which could expose them to provisions in the Lautenberg amendment and may impact their ability to carry job issued military weapons due to a poorly conceived and rushed law. How about you set aside the anti-gun agenda for a minute and recognize lateral impacts of your actions.

Maybe you should read the actual State constitution – all it asks for is a rationale for the message of necessity. No other parameters are given. Who is a court then to deny an act of the dully elected representatives of the people as long as they have met the requirements in the Constitution?

Having an elected representative is all well and good, but giving one a power that has no oversight is a bad precedent to set. It might ‘only’ be a power to speed up government, but when its used to do an end run around public discussion, that worries me.

There is oversight. It is called democratic elections .

File this one under the heading of “frivolous lawsuits.” The right of the Governor to deliver “messages of necessity” to the legislature is long settled case law and anyone with a brain knows it. This lawsuit was just another right wing temper tantrum and waste of tax payer money from the very people who profess to abhor that sort of thing.

Have you looked at a picture of the NYS Legislature? 75% old white guys. The fact that rural Upstate folks feel put upon is your problem – you guys probably make up 25% of New Yorkers, and you got about 30% of the legislature to vote against this bill. That seems pretty adequate representation.

And pay attention to the fact i used the word pandering in my original post. It apparently doesn’t matter what color or nationality or sexual orientation the 75% is.

Upstate has lost its riches due to the invasive taxation and anti business climate created in NYC. A break from the city would be a new breath in upstate.
As far as the watershed lands go, use what you have till its gone. As the water table becomes polluted from fracking, and the water levels from snow melt continue to decline, its not if its when you run out. I guess you could drink from the Hudson. Your city has a great track record with protecting its natural resources. Not! And I don’t advocate any seizure of land but if you think upstaters will give you one inch outside of the city boundries during a theoretical split your crazy.

This I took from the NYS DEC web site you ignorant douche bag.

Facts About The NYC Watershed

Why is the NYC Watershed unique?

The New York City drinking water supply system is the largest
unfiltered water supply in the United States (US). It provides
approximately 1.2 billion gallons of high quality drinking water to
nearly one-half the population of New York State every day.

Consumers include:

eight million NY City residents

1 million residents in Westchester, Putnam, Orange, and Ulster Counties.

In order to safeguard this irreplaceable natural resource a
comprehensive and innovative watershed protection plan was developed and
is embodied in the historic and landmark New York City Watershed
Agreement (MOA). The MOA was signed in January 1997 and is a partnership
agreement.

Partnership Members include:

New York City agencies

the upstate communities

the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and other federal agencies

the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) and other state agencies

members of the environmental community

The partnership was organized to protect and to ensure that New
Yorkers continue to enjoy high quality, affordable drinking water and to
avoid the need for costly filtration – a cost estimated at between $8.0
to $10.0 billion to construct the facility and approximately $1.0
million each day to operate and maintain the filtration plant.

You see the part that says partnership members asshole?

The City owns the reservoirs and the land around them. The City does not own the entire of the watershed – which is why an MOU is needed – too bad you aren’t bright enough to realize that.

Also, MOU’s are legal documents, which would not be abrogated by some hillbilly secession movement winning in Upstate (as unlikely as that is), and the city would be able to bring court action if its waters were polluted. So what have your proved? That your threat to the City’s water supply is still a bunch of nonsense?

I am referring you you and other who would consider secession as hillbillies, not all Upstaters.

Also, private landowners Penn. likely don’t have an MOU with anyone regarding their water supply. To compare them to NYC is a bit absurd, though I guess not for you.

All you did was re-state why the city has MOU’s with the State and private land owners. Good job there skippy. What next brilliant observation? The sun is spherical?

And what you are confident of is utterly meaningless – no, Upstate moderates and liberals aren’t going to decide they want to live in some frozen version of a Southern hell-hole – also, not all Southeners are hillbillies.

As for rising waters, NYC will make it – it has the money to do so. Now the Republicans of Long Island, well, that might be a different issue….

Were else can the illegals get FREE housing FREE medical FREE schooling FREE food stamps.Hell, they have more rights then the American citizen.They break the law, get put in jail, and a week later the bleeding heart liberal lets them out. That does give you a bad taste in your mouth!

long island wants nothing to do with that shithole city either.. long island is a nice place except in the summer.. all the “cidiots” infest the east end.. they have no idea how to drive & act like they own the place. ignorant to our ways the “cidiots” come out here & try to spread their liberal agenda..stay west of Nassau county… you can call that dump you live in the district of new york.. & rejoice in your liberal spoon fed ignorance N.Y. state & long island will become the 51 & 52 state… .the part that sucks most is because of all the liberal assholes from the city the rest of the country hates new yorkers.. all because of the shitbirds from the city…

it sucks really.. there is whole lot of people from ny that are nothing like that stereotype.. i got a couple of new ones living by me.you know.. madison ave types,,. this hunting season.. was needless to say.. interesting .. they were calling the police every morning telling them to roll out the national guard there were men in camo with guns shooting up the neighborhood.. cidiots … they have been hunting out here for over 200 years ..
but now they live here & pay taxes.. we have to stop.. sure..

That was a stupid response. Two wrongs don’t make a right. I happen to be a libertarian who supports gay rights. I’m not a hypocrite, so I also support the 2d amendment protecting gun rights. Don’t be a hypocrite yourself.

You think I care what wingnut commentators (and having an MD doesn’t mean you are capable of delivering a competent opinion on anything out side of your areas of study) think of me? Unlike you babies, I don’t have an unearned persecution complex, which is particularly idiotic coming from someone bragging about their degrees. Suck it up baby.